diff --git a/src/geo/polygon.js b/src/geo/polygon.js
index c88a06b5..f834776a 100644
--- a/src/geo/polygon.js
+++ b/src/geo/polygon.js
@@ -70,11 +70,15 @@ export class Polygon {
         return bounds;
     }
 
-    getBounds3D() {
-        let bounds = new THREE.Box3();
+    getBounds3D(bounds = new THREE.Box3()) {
         for (let point of this.points) {
             bounds.expandByPoint(point);
         }
+        if (this.inner) {
+            for (let i of this.inner) {
+                i.getBounds3D(bounds);
+            }
+        }
         return bounds;
     }
 
diff --git a/src/kiri/core/conf.js b/src/kiri/core/conf.js
index 70e627e9..117559f7 100644
--- a/src/kiri/core/conf.js
+++ b/src/kiri/core/conf.js
@@ -426,6 +426,7 @@ export const conf = {
                 camAreaSpindle: 1000,
                 camAreaTool: 1000,
                 camAreaMode: "clear",
+                camAreaOffset: "none",
                 camAreaOver: 0.4,
                 camAreaDown: 1,
                 camAreaSpeed: 1000,
@@ -433,6 +434,7 @@ export const conf = {
                 camAreaExpand: 0,
                 camAreaSmooth: 1,
                 camAreaRefine: 0,
+                camAreaOutline: false,
                 camContourAngle: 85,
                 camContourBottom: false,
                 camContourBridge: 0,
diff --git a/src/kiri/mode/cam/cl-ops.js b/src/kiri/mode/cam/cl-ops.js
index 3cdf1dcf..52c855e6 100644
--- a/src/kiri/mode/cam/cl-ops.js
+++ b/src/kiri/mode/cam/cl-ops.js
@@ -654,10 +654,22 @@ export function createPopOps() {
 
     createPopOp('|', {}).inputs = {};
 
+    function isClear() {
+        return env.poppedRec.mode === 'clear';
+    }
+
+    function isTrace() {
+        return env.poppedRec.mode === 'trace';
+    }
+    function isSurface() {
+        return env.poppedRec.mode === 'surface';
+    }
+
     createPopOp('area', {
         spindle: 'camAreaSpindle',
         tool: 'camAreaTool',
         mode: 'camAreaMode',
+        offset: 'camAreaOffset',
         over: 'camAreaOver',
         down: 'camAreaDown',
         rate: 'camAreaSpeed',
@@ -665,6 +677,7 @@ export function createPopOps() {
         expand: 'camAreaExpand',
         smooth: 'camAreaSmooth',
         refine: 'camAreaRefine',
+        outline: 'camAreaOutline',
         ov_topz: 0,
         ov_botz: 0,
         ov_conv: '~camConventional',
@@ -672,29 +685,34 @@ export function createPopOps() {
     }).inputs = {
         tool: UC.newSelect(LANG.cc_tool, {}, "tools"),
         mode: UC.newSelect(LANG.mo_menu, {}, "opmode"),
+        offset: UC.newSelect(LANG.cc_offs_s, { title: LANG.cc_offs_l, show: isTrace }, "traceoff"),
+        sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
+        menu: UC.newRow([
+            UC.newButton("edge", traceAdd),
+            UC.newButton("surface", surfaceAdd),
+        ], { class: "ext-buttons f-row" }),
+        outline: UC.newBoolean(LANG.cp_outl_s, undefined, { title: LANG.cp_outl_l, show: () => isClear() || isTrace() }),
+        expand: UC.newInput(LANG.cp_xpnd_s, { title: LANG.cp_xpnd_l, convert: toFloat, units }),
+        sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
+        over: UC.newInput(LANG.cc_sovr_s, { title: LANG.cc_sovr_l, convert: toFloat, bound: UC.bound(0.001, 100.0), units, show: isClear }),
+        down: UC.newInput(LANG.cc_sdwn_s, { title: LANG.cc_sdwn_l, convert: toFloat, bound: UC.bound(0, 100.0), units, show: () => isClear() || isTrace() }),
+        sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep", show: isSurface }),
+        refine: UC.newInput(LANG.cp_refi_s, { title: LANG.cp_refi_l, convert: toInt, show: isSurface }),
+        smooth: UC.newInput(LANG.cp_smoo_s, { title: LANG.cp_smoo_l, convert: toInt, show: isSurface }),
+        tolerance: UC.newInput(LANG.ou_toll_s, { title: LANG.ou_toll_l, convert: toFloat, bound: UC.bound(0, 10.0), units, round: 4, show: isSurface }),
+        sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
+        exp: UC.newExpand("feeds & speeds"),
         sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
         spindle: UC.newInput(LANG.cc_spnd_s, { title: LANG.cc_spnd_l, convert: toInt, show: hasSpindle }),
         rate: UC.newInput(LANG.cc_feed_s, { title: LANG.cc_feed_l, convert: toInt, units }),
         plunge: UC.newInput(LANG.cc_plng_s, { title: LANG.cc_plng_l, convert: toInt, units }),
-        sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
-        over: UC.newInput(LANG.cc_sovr_s, { title: LANG.cc_sovr_l, convert: toFloat, bound: UC.bound(0.001, 100.0), units }),
-        down: UC.newInput(LANG.cc_sdwn_s, { title: LANG.cc_sdwn_l, convert: toFloat, bound: UC.bound(0.001, 100.0), units }),
-        sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
-        expand: UC.newInput(LANG.cp_xpnd_s, { title: LANG.cp_xpnd_l, convert: toFloat, units }),
-        refine: UC.newInput(LANG.cp_refi_s, { title: LANG.cp_refi_l, convert: toInt }),
-        smooth: UC.newInput(LANG.cp_smoo_s, { title: LANG.cp_smoo_l, convert: toInt }),
-        tolerance: UC.newInput(LANG.ou_toll_s, { title: LANG.ou_toll_l, convert: toFloat, bound: UC.bound(0, 10.0), units, round: 4 }),
+        exp_end: UC.endExpand(),
         exp: UC.newExpand("overrides"),
         sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
         ov_topz: UC.newInput(LANG.ou_ztop_s, { title: LANG.ou_ztop_l, convert: toFloat, units }),
         ov_botz: UC.newInput(LANG.ou_zbot_s, { title: LANG.ou_zbot_l, convert: toFloat, units }),
         ov_conv: UC.newBoolean(LANG.ou_conv_s, undefined, { title: LANG.ou_conv_l }),
         exp_end: UC.endExpand(),
-        sep: UC.newBlank({ class: "pop-sep" }),
-        menu: UC.newRow([
-            UC.newButton("edge", traceAdd),
-            UC.newButton("surface", surfaceAdd),
-        ], { class: "ext-buttons f-row" }),
     };
 
 }
diff --git a/src/kiri/mode/cam/op-area.js b/src/kiri/mode/cam/op-area.js
index 65917d8a..2b417755 100644
--- a/src/kiri/mode/cam/op-area.js
+++ b/src/kiri/mode/cam/op-area.js
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ class OpArea extends CamOp {
     async slice(progress) {
         const pocket = this;
         let { op, state } = this;
-        let { tool, mode, down, over, follow, expand, plunge, smooth, tolerance } = op;
+        let { tool, mode, down, over, follow, expand, offset, outline, smooth, tolerance } = op;
         let { ov_topz, ov_botz, ov_conv } = op;
         let { settings, widget, tabs, color } = state;
         let { addSlices, setToolDiam, cutTabs, healPolys, shadowAt, workarea } = state;
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ class OpArea extends CamOp {
         let toolDiam = areaTool.fluteDiameter();
         let toolOver = areaTool.hasTaper() ? over : toolDiam * over;
         let zTop = ov_topz ? workarea.bottom_stock + ov_topz : workarea.top_stock;
-        let zBottom = ov_botz ? workarea.bottom_stock + ov_botz : workarea.bottom_stock;
+        let zBottom = ov_botz ? workarea.bottom_stock + ov_botz : workarea.bottom_part;
 
         console.log({ workarea, zTop, zBottom });
 
@@ -98,6 +98,8 @@ class OpArea extends CamOp {
         let proc = 0;
         let pinc = 1 / polys.length;
         for (let area of polys) {
+            let bounds = area.getBounds3D();
+
             if (devel) newLayer().output()
                 .setLayer("area", { line: 0xff8800 }, false)
                 .addPolys([ area ]);
@@ -105,25 +107,39 @@ class OpArea extends CamOp {
             newArea();
 
             if (mode === 'clear') {
-                let zs = base_util.lerp(zTop, zBottom, down);
+                let zs = down ? base_util.lerp(zTop, zBottom, down) : [ bounds.min.z ];
                 let zroc = 0;
                 let zinc = 1 / zs.length;
+                let lzo;
+                outer: for (;;)
                 for (let z of zs) {
                     let slice = newLayer();
                     let layers = slice.output();
                     let outs = [];
                     let clip = [];
                     let shadow = shadowAt(z);
+                    if (outline) {
+                        shadow = shadow.clone(true);
+                        // remove shadow inner when processing outline only
+                        for (let poly of shadow) poly.inner = undefined;
+                    }
                     POLY.subtract([ area ], shadow, clip, undefined, undefined, 0);
                     POLY.offset(clip, [ -toolDiam / 2, -toolOver ], {
                         count: 999, outs, flat: true, z, minArea: 0
                     });
                     if (outs.length === 0) {
+                        if (bounds && lzo > bounds.min.z) {
+                            // try a bottom layer matching bottom of selection
+                            zs = [ bounds.min.z ];
+                            bounds = undefined;
+                            continue outer;
+                        }
                         // terminate z descent when no further output possible
-                        break;
+                        break outer;
                     }
                     slice.camLines = outs;
                     zroc += zinc;
+                    lzo = z;
                     progress(proc + (pinc * zroc), 'clear');
                     if (devel) layers
                         .setLayer("shadow", { line: 0x0088ff }, false)
@@ -131,12 +147,47 @@ class OpArea extends CamOp {
                     layers
                         .setLayer("clear", { line: 0x88ff00 }, false)
                         .addPolys(outs);
+                    // of the last output still cuts, we need an escape
+                    if (z === zs.peek()) {
+                        break outer;
+                    }
                 }
                 proc += pinc;
                 progress(proc, 'clear');
             } else
             if (mode === 'trace') {
-
+                let zs = down ? base_util.lerp(zTop, bounds.min.z, down) : [ bounds.min.z ];
+                let zroc = 0;
+                let zinc = 1 / zs.length;
+                let lzo;
+                if (outline) {
+                    area.inner = undefined;
+                }
+                for (let z of zs) {
+                    let slice = newLayer();
+                    let layers = slice.output();
+                    let outs = [];
+                    if (offset === 'none') {
+                        outs = [ area.clone().setZ(z) ];
+                    } else {
+                        POLY.offset([ area ], offset === 'inside' ? [ -toolDiam / 2 ] : [ toolDiam / 2 ], {
+                            count: 1, outs, flat: true, z, minArea: 0
+                        });
+                    }
+                    if (outs.length === 0) {
+                        // terminate z descent when no further output possible
+                        break;
+                    }
+                    slice.camLines = outs;
+                    zroc += zinc;
+                    lzo = z;
+                    progress(proc + (pinc * zroc), 'trace');
+                    layers
+                        .setLayer("trace", { line: 0x88ff00 }, false)
+                        .addPolys(outs);
+                }
+                proc += pinc;
+                progress(proc, 'trace');
             } else
             if (mode === 'surface') {
 
@@ -154,6 +205,7 @@ class OpArea extends CamOp {
         setTool(op.tool, op.rate);
         setSpindle(op.spindle);
 
+        // process areas as pockets
         while (areas?.length) {
             let printPoint = getPrintPoint();
             let min = {