diff --git a/notes.md b/notes.md
index 5e6e8912..6602e0ea 100644
--- a/notes.md
+++ b/notes.md
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@
 * `B` multi-extruder rendering of raft fails to offset the rest of the print
 * `B` multi-extruder purge blocks fail to generate properly for rafts
 
+* `F` add 'random' and 'seam' start point options
 * `F` convert ranges to z offsets while continuing to show layer #
 * `F` support pillar top/bottom should conform to part
 * `F` more explicit line width control with ranges and min/max adaptive
diff --git a/src/kiri-mode/cam/client.js b/src/kiri-mode/cam/client.js
index 172c58b2..563373d3 100644
--- a/src/kiri-mode/cam/client.js
+++ b/src/kiri-mode/cam/client.js
@@ -1315,8 +1315,11 @@ CAM.init = function(kiri, api) {
 
     createPopOp('index', {
         degrees: 'camIndexAxis',
+        absolute: 'camIndexAbs'
     }).inputs = {
-        degrees: UC.newInput(LANG.ci_degr_s, {title:LANG.ci_degr_l, convert:UC.toFloat, bound:UC.bound(-360,360.0) })
+        degrees:  UC.newInput(LANG.ci_degr_s, {title:LANG.ci_degr_l, convert:UC.toFloat, bound:UC.bound(-360,360.0) }),
+        absolute: UC.newBoolean(LANG.ci_abso_s, undefined, {title:LANG.ci_abso_l}),
+        select:   UC.newRow([ UC.newButton(LANG.ci_face_s, noop) ], {class:"ext-buttons f-row"})
     };
 
     const editEnable = gcodeEditor('Laser Enable Script', 'enable');
diff --git a/src/kiri/conf.js b/src/kiri/conf.js
index 03a6b2a7..395d4120 100644
--- a/src/kiri/conf.js
+++ b/src/kiri/conf.js
@@ -566,6 +566,7 @@ const conf = exports({
                 camStockClipTo: false,
                 camStockIndexed: false,
                 camIndexAxis: 0,
+                camIndexAbs: true,
                 camStockOn: true,
                 camConventional: false, // outputClockwise
                 outputOriginCenter: false,
diff --git a/web/kiri/lang/en.js b/web/kiri/lang/en.js
index dea2660d..88006056 100644
--- a/web/kiri/lang/en.js
+++ b/web/kiri/lang/en.js
@@ -559,6 +559,10 @@ self.kiri.lang['en-us'] = {
     // CNC INDEX AXIS
     ci_degr_s:      "degrees",
     ci_degr_l:      "degrees to rotate the A (indexed) axis",
+    ci_abso_s:      "absolute",
+    ci_abso_l:      "degree rotation is absolute",
+    ci_face_s:      "face",
+    ci_face_l:      "select face to rotate facing up",
 
     // CNC LASER
     cl_powr_s:      "power",